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	<title>Comments on: Separate but Equal in the Gurdwara</title>
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		<title>By: Deep</title>
		<link>http://sikhswim.com/2008/02/10/separate-but-equal-in-the-gurdwara/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been to some Gurudwara Proragms were people did not sit like this, (AKJ things, the peopel sat where ever).   I think when you have groups of very devoute people this sort of seperation falls apart.  

I can see it being needed depending on the types of fellas that show up to some Gurudwaras, (esp in Punjab).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to some Gurudwara Proragms were people did not sit like this, (AKJ things, the peopel sat where ever).   I think when you have groups of very devoute people this sort of seperation falls apart.  </p>
<p>I can see it being needed depending on the types of fellas that show up to some Gurudwaras, (esp in Punjab).</p>
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		<title>By: ks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don't know if it's true, but something I read once was that the gender separation is actually a victorianism! Families used to sit together, but the colonial british influence/corruption resulted in the divide. It should be noted that orthodox jewish services are also gender separated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s true, but something I read once was that the gender separation is actually a victorianism! Families used to sit together, but the colonial british influence/corruption resulted in the divide. It should be noted that orthodox jewish services are also gender separated.</p>
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		<title>By: sonny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was just talking to a friend of mine about this the other day.  i actually think it doesn't make sense at all to have gurdwaras gender segregated, and the younger generation (and our older allies) should try to put the practice to a stop.  while i've never heard the first story you told about guru nanak, it is interesting, and takes into account the real gender inequality that existed at the time (and still very much exists today).  also i'd add that i've been to gurdwaras where this is no "invisible line" between males and females and that i've never seen the gender separation enforced in any way. the way i've always thought about it is that it's an old tradition (obviously) and habit that exists but isn't actually based on sikh philosophy or practice in any way. in terms of the "distraction" issue, i do find it kinda ridiculous (though it's the most common explanation i've heard).  if you really want to check out the women at gurdwara while kirtan is going on, looking over to the other side is hardly going to stop you.  also, the heterosexual assumption inherent in the "distraction" explanation bothers me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was just talking to a friend of mine about this the other day.  i actually think it doesn&#8217;t make sense at all to have gurdwaras gender segregated, and the younger generation (and our older allies) should try to put the practice to a stop.  while i&#8217;ve never heard the first story you told about guru nanak, it is interesting, and takes into account the real gender inequality that existed at the time (and still very much exists today).  also i&#8217;d add that i&#8217;ve been to gurdwaras where this is no &#8220;invisible line&#8221; between males and females and that i&#8217;ve never seen the gender separation enforced in any way. the way i&#8217;ve always thought about it is that it&#8217;s an old tradition (obviously) and habit that exists but isn&#8217;t actually based on sikh philosophy or practice in any way. in terms of the &#8220;distraction&#8221; issue, i do find it kinda ridiculous (though it&#8217;s the most common explanation i&#8217;ve heard).  if you really want to check out the women at gurdwara while kirtan is going on, looking over to the other side is hardly going to stop you.  also, the heterosexual assumption inherent in the &#8220;distraction&#8221; explanation bothers me.</p>
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		<title>By: Henna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn't heard the story before, and I liked it.  It makes sense.  What did your audience think?

I just wanted to add that I don't have problems with the "hokey" secondary explanation.  It makes sense too, though sometimes the women's side is still noisier than it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard the story before, and I liked it.  It makes sense.  What did your audience think?</p>
<p>I just wanted to add that I don&#8217;t have problems with the &#8220;hokey&#8221; secondary explanation.  It makes sense too, though sometimes the women&#8217;s side is still noisier than it should be.</p>
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